morality legislation agenda pbs special

[iftsiga]

I expect this to depress me this evening, even if it doesn't cover anything I don't already know.

+It's on PBS stations anywhere, you can look up showtimes in your area. Should be repeated tomorrow many places. It's short, mostly about South Dakota. Apparently there are some web only bits at http://www.pbs.org/now/ ...The interviewer seems to be restraining herself mightily from giving the smug sanctimonious head of the abstinence education movement a slap with a shoe. ++Alas, there are no "desirious of shoe-slapping" confessions at the website, but there are broader things covered than the televised bit was able to do.

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[simmeringhatred.livejournal.com]

The only major world religion I can think of that absolutely does not allow birth control is the Catholic Church. Plenty others have restrictions, however, and Im sure a lot of Muslim women in the middle east would rather be in the position of the Catholics, where at least they can go outside without a hat without fear of being beaten to death by an angry mob.
The pharmacidt thing is covered in the article- it does not affirm any right to refuse to do something that is legal. It really seems as if the main problem in the states is not that there are millions of angry, militant christians around, the way it is (equivalent religion) in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, but rather that there is a very vocal minority who have managed to take advantage of christianities "good name" and no public figure wants to be seen to be the heathen who tells them to butt out of everyone elses affairs. What I try to tell everyone who questions why my tracts- so few people point out the inconsistencies, the stupidity, the blind fucking ignorance of the dominant religious culture, so why try to get me to stop aswell?
Abstinence culture is currently being prmoted worldwide by these freaks, as Im sure you know. Thats part of the problem with fundamentalist faith- it has to be applicable to all, or it means nothing. If only they actually had some decent standards that they felt the urge to push globally, like abstinence from torture, or a global minimum wage, or smething equally as impossible/unworkable.
That ball sounds utterly repellent, in the way that only undisguised pious mysogeny can be. Of curse, Daddys little Hymen is, or was, a real money spinner. If one cant sell/marry off ones virgin daughters to the highest bidder, then you might as well drown them in a bucket at birth, no?

[xauenmurph.livejournal.com]

Well, of course, you don't need TOO many Virgin Princesses. Some cultures you gotta come up with a dowry (...pay the groom). In this country it is "traditional" that the bride's family pays for the wedding.

A whole lot of our anti-abortion, pro-ignorance and abstinence, adultress-stonage & fag-burnage favoring activists are some form of fundamentalist or evangelical Christian. There is a peculiar alliance with the loonier sort of Catholics. So many a la carte Catholics in this country, also.

[simmeringhatred.livejournal.com]

I would imagine that most, if not all, of the "set the clock back to 1800" campaigners in America are fundamentalist believers of one kind or another. Why else would you think like that? How else could you justify it? I just meant that they are a minority, but most people who dont think about things, or dont have time to, acquiesce to their insanity because they have never been told that it is OK not to. The fundies have monopolised the debate about 'morality' so effectively that if you dont start with "Im a Christian..." then everyone thinks you have nothing to say on the subject.
To my mind, the whole virginity thing in America is just the last pathetic, shrivelled vestigal remains of the same anti-female culture that results in horrific torture and death in less developed countries. And not the only one.

[xauenmurph.livejournal.com]

Oh, I agree. The whole virginity thing anywhere is dehumanizing. The massive emphasis on teenage GIRLS' purity is pretty telling. The nonsense about predatory deceitful males being after the innocent female's body while she is gullibly seeking love and security....because women have no sex drive, of course... and have to carefully guard their one most precious commodity so that someone will value her enough to take her on as a dependent when they reach adulthood...

The born-again virgin movement is only mildly less revolting.

[simmeringhatred.livejournal.com]

Add the words "born-again" to any description, and it becomes revolting. Try it...
Born- Again Vegans;
Born- Again PETA campaigner;
Born- Again Anarchists.
All wankers.